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I asked him if it was the mp3... he said "No it's in the synth" So I suggested he'd play one live.hephiroth wrote:i've noticed that some demo recordings have "clipping" in them due to improper recording levels. i recommend actually getting your hands on a unit to hear for yourself that there are no pops (and there aren't)
-jeff-
Thanks Steve for your help!Hollow Sun wrote:I am not aware of any offensive clicks and pops in the audio demo you refer to and listening to the demo again at the times you specify, I am not hearing anything that your 'golden eared' friend suggests.
There is an occasional issue on Fusion in extreme cases where voice stealing can sometimes exhibit some clicks but this inevitably involves densely layered sounds with very long releases that employ use of the sustain pedal with (typically) long, luxurious layered pads, etc..
The audio demo in question uses none of these sounds and so I find it unlikely that that this is the root of the alleged problem your friend refers to - the sounds are quite bouncy and staccatto and any reference to this 'issue' is likely to be a red herring and misleading.
If this is the only audio demo your friend claims to hear these artefacts on, more likely perhaps that it's an encoding problem of that particular MP3... or a reproduction problem on your system (soundcard dependent perhaps?). I certainly can't hear anything untoward despite repeated listenings. Almost 900 people have listened to it at the forum (and no doubt countless more at Alesis' own site) but not a single mention of the issue.... until now. And I have come to know Falcon (Paul Van Der Valk) who made this demo - he's a perfectionist who wouldn't let cr&p like that pass by him by unnoticed.
I am not disputing your friend's claims (well ... maybe I am!) but I too am a golden ears and have pretty damned good hearing (I make a living as a sound designer which requires microscopic analysis of sound and I can spot a miniscule click at a thousand paces!) but I can't detect the things that your friend claims to hear.
Not sure why you raised this here over an MP3, known for artefacts!
As a test for your friend, re-do the mp3 and delete a set amount of time from the start, (ie 30 seconds or so), and see if he still spots the "clicks and pops" where he said they were on the original.I was showing a fellow studio owner some of the new demos of the Fusion and he said he could hear some hi end pops and clips.
He said he could hear it on the Fusion Synthi demo around 2:07, 2:09. 2:11. At 2:57 is pretty noticeable he says. Like as if you were clipping your nails.
and he'd STILL hear it knowing him!
The Fusion with mic pres? That's just wishful thinking.SEA wrote:Also if they are going to come out with a BEEFED up FUSION II with mic pres, mastering tools, etc. it might be worth waiting a few months
There are indeed some pops in that piece, but these are not caused by the fusion but by the PC audio card losing sync to the ADAT signal. This results in incidental trash data of one sample wide. It's a rather subtle effect. The most noticable one is at 2:40 AFAIC. Your friend must have golden ears indeed if he distinguishes these artifacts at the time-spots you mentionSEA wrote:I was showing a fellow studio owner some of the new demos of the Fusion and he said he could hear some hi end pops and clips.
He said he could hear it on the Fusion Synthi demo around 2:07, 2:09. 2:11. At 2:57 is pretty noticeable he says. Like as if you were clipping your nails.
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)...Thanks for letting us know what the problem is Falcon!falcon wrote:Perhaps I should re-record it, but currently my DAW is in a terminal state (power/mobo probsSEA wrote:I was showing a fellow studio owner some of the new demos of the Fusion and he said he could hear some hi end pops and clips.
He said he could hear it on the Fusion Synthi demo around 2:07, 2:09. 2:11. At 2:57 is pretty noticeable he says. Like as if you were clipping your nails.
Done. The re-recorded version is on the Alesis site. (It's a bit of a remix since the original version couldn't be rebuilt completely)SEA wrote:If you could redo those in the future that would be greatfalcon wrote:Perhaps I should re-record it, but currently my DAW is in a terminal state (power/mobo probsSEA wrote:I was showing a fellow studio owner some of the new demos of the Fusion and he said he could hear some hi end pops and clips.
He said he could hear it on the Fusion Synthi demo around 2:07, 2:09. 2:11. At 2:57 is pretty noticeable he says. Like as if you were clipping your nails.
I like this demo better!! It looks like you enhanced it in some spots.falcon wrote:Done. The re-recorded version is on the Alesis site. (It's a bit of a remix since the original version couldn't be rebuilt completely)SEA wrote:If you could redo those in the future that would be greatfalcon wrote: Perhaps I should re-record it, but currently my DAW is in a terminal state (power/mobo probs
Yep, tracks are upped from 14 to 16 and some crowded stuff is removed. Also upped the tempo a percentage and a half for a bit more drive and less hang.SEA wrote:I like this demo better!! It looks like you enhanced it in some spots.
Could bePerhaps you've had more time getting to know Fusion
. But there's not much new in here. It still conforms to a concept of voluntary limitations: